Scythe Grand Tornado 120: Even an LCP fan can be “cheap”

Mounting and vibration measurement

We were very excited to see the results of the Grand Tornado 120. It looks good geometrically and is also one of the cheapest LCP models out there. Scythe has also informed us that the Grand Tornado 120 is set to outperform the legendary Gentle Typhoon (D1225C). And it’s true, it does outperform it, though perhaps in different ways than you’d expect. But the LCP fan from Scythe gets along really well with radiators.

Mounting and vibration measurement

Naturally, each tested fan must first be properly mounted. With all that we want to measure, and with the kind of precision that is required for relevant measurements, even the smallest details matter. The whole mounting system is quite complex and we are happy to have fine-tuned it to maximum satisfaction. Even if it meant hundreds of hours of tinkering. What’s so complicated about it? There’s more.

The fans are installed to the multi-purpose bracket. The substrate is a 2 mm thick metal plate to which the fan is attached, or the fan is attached together with an obstacle (e.g. a filter, hexagonal grille or liquid cooler radiator).

Bracket for installing the fan and vibrometer sensor

For correct and always equal pressure, the fans are always tightened with the same force with a torque screwdriver. If this were not the case, joints and clearances in the assembly could arise, in short, uneven conditions with undesirable distortion. For example, also for vibration measurement. On top of the fan mount there is also a bracket for the three-axis vibrometer sensor. The latter is magnetically attached via a steel insert, on which the sensor exerts a force of one kilogram and, thanks to the stop, is also always in the same place and in the same contact with the rest of the structure. These are the basics in terms of repeatability of measurements.

In order to capture the intensity at the highest possible resolution, the tray of the holder cannot be too heavy and at the same time it must be strong enough not to twist. This would again cause various distortions. Therefore, we used a hard (H19) aluminium (AL99.5) plate for the construction of the holder, whose weight is just enough so that free movement is not significantly restricted.

To achieve the finest possible resolution for vibration measurement, soft rubber inserts are provided in the mounting holes through which the bracket is installed to the tunnel. And just behind these inserts are silent blocks with a very low hardness of 30 Shore. These are also used so that the vibrations of the fans don’t spread to the tunnel skeleton. If this were to happen, then for fans with more intense vibrations, this secondary noise component, which is not related to the aerodynamic sound of the fan, would also be reflected in the noise measurement results.

Sensitive mounting mechanism allows high-resolution vibration measurement while preventing vibrations from traversing to the wind tunnel skeleton

This is where it is good to have ideal conditions, even though they are unattainable in practice, because fan vibrations will always be transmitted to the case skeleton to some degree. But each cabinet will react differently to them, or rather the final noise level will depend on a number of factors, starting with the materials used. Therefore, it is a good idea to filter out this extra noise component in tests and in practice take into account the measured vibration intensities. The higher these vibrations are, the higher the noise addition has to be taken into account.

The silent blocks are naturally formatted to offset the bracket a bit from the rest of the tunnel, otherwise they wouldn’t make sense. This creates a gap that is sealed across the entire surface with a soft foam seal with closed cell structure (i.e., it’s airtight).

To prevent vibrations from passing through to the wind tunnel structure, there is a small gap between the fan bracket and the leading edge of the tunnel, which is sealed by a soft foam collar

To properly center the fan impeller in relation to the other elements, the bracket includes a protruding frame that follows the inner contour of the seal. And to make matters even more complicated, the frame with the tested fan is pressed against this seal by a small force of compression springs, which in turn is set with the highest possible resolution for vibration measurement in mind and at the same time so that sufficient pressure is generated to maintain a flawless seal.

Vibration is measured with a Landtek VM-6380 vibration meter. It records the vibration speed (in mm) per second in all axes (X, Y, Z). For quick orientation, we calculate a 3D vector from the measured values and graph the “total” vibration intensity. But you can also find your results if you are only interested in a specific axis.

The most complicated part of the tunnel is behind us, and we’ll move on in the next chapter. But we will still stay at the beginning of the tunnel, we will just turn to the peripheries on the sides.


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Comments (4) Add comment

  1. DNF at the very high target of 31dB(A) means it isn’t cheap, it means no matter the price it’s too expensive
    additionally knowing it starts at around 680RPM and it still doesn’t pass that target means it’s just bad acoustically
    it may find a niche, people are frequently mentioning this or that dethroning Noctua while the performance is only slightly higher at one very specific and extremely high noise target so at some point it may be a decent option, but I just wouldn’t bother, no reason to stand that noise when I can just set A12x25 a tiny bit below this ones starting speed and have it perform better and stay silent

    1. This is subjective. It depends on who is looking for what. If the priority is the highest possible airflow regardless of noise level, while also weighing low vibration or extra durability, then the Grand Tornado 120 can be a great choice. In the context of that potentially high durability (if Scythe doesn’t exaggerate the MTBF value…), we also discussed the server concept of the Scythe Grand Tornado 120 fan in the discussion below the text in another language

      1. for separate-room-home-server I’d likely go with Noctua PPC or T30 (or NH-P1 due to superior reliability if the heat load was lower, though AC has the advantage of providing a decent heatsink that will prevent your system from shutting down even if fans stop, LC on the other hand…), for regular server room with regular server fans like Delta
        for living/working space silence is a requirement impossible to give up on so the silent performance is all that matters

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